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announcement [22 Aug 2012|05:58pm]

Since this community is becoming spam bait, I am blocking future posts and disallowing people to join it.

I started the community when the U.S. was about the invade Iraq and there was a hue and a cry in the left communities that saw it only in Chomsky terms. I figured that there was a lot of discussion that needed to be made that wasn't in the polarized Left (crazy pacifist) vs. Right (warmonger) factions.

The U.S. has pulled out of Iraq. Afghanistan is still a quagmire. There are other fights and other countries blowing up. And while that would be fun to talk about, I think these debates have moved elsewhere and are less polarized. Besides that, livejournal communities are no longer than interesting.

Anyhow for the three people still reading this community, I apologize for the NSFW spam that just got posted and I hope you all have a great day - oh also - I wrote this - http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/the-4-goofiest-curses-from-bible/
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Petition to move the American Embassy to Jerusalem [22 Jul 2012|02:32pm]

President Barack Hussein Obama
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20500
(202) 456-1111

Dear Mr. President,

On October 23, 1995, the United States Congress passed the Jerusalem Embassy Relocation Act, requiring that the United States move its embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem by May 1999. The law recognized that every nation has the right to designate its own capital and that Israel has so designated Jerusalem as its capital city.

In order to placate Israel’s and America’s enemies abroad, President Bill Clinton signed a national security waiver of the act in June 1999. This injustice has since been replicated by each succeeding President, including you, President Obama, every six months since the waiver was originally signed.

We believe that the time is long overdue for this injustice to be righted. We especially believe this time is important, as Israel’s enemies have been raising the rhetoric regarding Jerusalem.
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Please help to distribute this petition. Thank you.
.אנא עזרו להפיץ את העצומה. תודה
Veuillez nous aider à faire signer cette pétition. Merci.
Пожалуйста помогите рапространить эту петицию. Спасибо.
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LETS OPEN OUR EYES [03 Dec 2011|05:00pm]


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I know this is a dead community but just in case anyone is still reading [20 May 2009|02:47pm]

Ok. I'm really falling behind in Wednesday Book Promotion. And now I find out that just doing an Amazon search is yielding a whole bunch of copies of Rashi that aren't mine. Including a Kindle edition that uses my (admittedly awful) cover design.

So this Wednesday, I'm going to just promote my own book. The Wednesday Book Promotion book is Rashi by Maurice Liber - this is a 1906 biography originally published by JPS. My version is easier to navigate (I updated formatting) and I include an introduction.

Cross-posted to book_pimp, of course.

What I'm asking you to do:

1. Click on the above links.
2. Add Tags. May I suggest "teddy bear cannibal massacre"?
3. Once you are at that link, hit the helpful or not helpful buttons for the reviews.
4. Hit those lists and guides and click on a few of those links.
5. Write your own List and include this book. Examples.
6. If you've read the book, write a review - both on your blog or on Amazon.
7. If you're interested in buying the book, buy it.
8. Go to Amazon and independently search for the book.
9. Copy this post into your own livejournal.

As usual this is the Wednesday Book Promotion. Help out as much as you can. Especially if I put your book up for Wednesday Book Promotion in the past.
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Surge Unraveling [03 Apr 2009|11:40am]

Interesting article on how the surge is beginning to unravel. This is what I expected would happen in the end. The surge was nothing more than a delaying tactic. Over the summer, expect all hell to break loose in Iraq. http://www.truthout.org/040209A
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Death And Hedonism [09 Nov 2007|01:10am]
Hedonism is an ideology, one of the 3 rare ideologies (the other 2 being individual autonomism and precisionism). Hedonism is the ideology in which suffering is minimized and pleasure is increased. Hedonism is similar to the far-leftist ideology (called 'liberal' in the United States), which may be called 'equalism', because hedonism includes socialism, foreign aid, and animal welfare. The difference between hedonism and equalism is that hedonism is more efficient, because it acknowledges intrinsic inequalities. Equalists believe that different beliefs are equal, and that different people are equal. It is from the belief in the equality of all people that opposition to the death penalty and war stems. It is from the belief in the equality of beliefs that subjectivist agnosticism stems. Hedonists, in contrast to equalists, are atheists, and support the death penalty and war, because they are necessary to improve quality of life.

Since you are pro-war liberals, I conclude that there are likely to be hedonists among you. I have created a livejournal group for people of hedonist ideology. It is:
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"The question may not be whether America is ready to attack, but whether Israel is." [26 Sep 2007|03:45am]

NOTE: x-posted to my LJ.

Since a couple more articles pertaining to the looming crisis with Israel, Syria and Iran have appeared, I thought I'd post this here in the hopes that it would be of interest and spark more discussion. Thanks!

The current issue of Newsweek (the 1 October 2007 issue) has an article by Dan Ephron and Mark Hosenball titled "Israel's Raid on Syria: Prelude to a Nuke Crisis?" (the title displays as "The Whispers of War," until you go to print it; once you have the printable view, the title changes to "Israel's Raid on Syria: Prelude to a Nuke Crisis?" -- *Shrug*) that echoes and reinforces the bass-line that we've been hearing about the impending war with Iran.

Ephron and Hosenball use retired U.S. Air Force colonel and professional war gamer/consultant Sam Gardiner as their hook: "In Gardiner's war games, the conduct of Iran's nemesis, Israel, is often the hardest to predict." The authors note that "The simulations have led Gardiner to an ominous conclusion: though the United States is now emphasizing sanctions and diplomacy as the means of compelling Tehran to stop enriching uranium, an Israeli attack on Iran's nuclear facilities could end up dragging Washington into a war."

Let's play 'I've Got a Secret'...Collapse )
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Nuclear families: U.S. backs Israel's attack on North Korean-supplied nuke facility in Syria. [24 Sep 2007|12:30am]

NOTE: x-posted to my LJ.

I'm really hoping for some discussion of the increasing likelihood that the U.S. and/or Israel will attack Iran and/or Syria in the near future; I'm also hoping to be persuaded that Iran and Syria can be convinced to abandon their nuclear weapons programs short of another war that includes, according to a piece by Daniel Ellsberg in the October 2006 issue of Harper's Magazine, a first U.S. nuclear strike against Iran. Thanks!

Well, looks like it's official:

The Sunday Times (UK) is reporting in their 23 September edition that "sources in Washington and Jerusalem" have confirmed that "Israeli commandos seized nuclear material of North Korean origin during a daring raid on a secret military site in Syria before Israel bombed it this month" with U.S. approval. The article's ("Snatched: Israeli commandos ‘nuclear’ raid") author, Sarah Baxter, also notes that "Diplomats in North Korea and China said they believed a number of North Koreans were killed in the raid, noting that ballistic missile technicians and military scientists had been working for some time with the Syrians."

The air raid occurred in the wee small hours of Thursday, 6 September: what has given this story legs is the unwonted reticence of Syria, Israel, and even the United States ("Dubya" tersely replied "I'm not going to comment on the matter" no less than three times when asked about the raid at his news conference about the State Children's Health Insurance Program [SCHIP] on Thursday, 20 September) about the affair; and while The Washington Post in an uncredited op-ed on Thursday, 20 September opined that "It nevertheless is beginning to look as if Israel may have carried out the boldest act of nuclear preemption since its own 1981 raid against Iraq's Osirak nuclear complex," nothing even semi-definitive has been published about this story until now.

EDITED: ..because cema pointed out in pro_war_liberal that Jerusalem is indeed the capital of Israel, not Tel Aviv. Duhhh.

And Iran, Iran not so far away...Collapse )
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[29 May 2007|12:30am]
can someone tell me, just out of curiosity, which of the american newspapers are generally considered conservative and which are considered liberal? i figure the new york times are a fairly middle-of-the-road publication.
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one blond dies, one shaves her head, and then there's this little story... [20 Feb 2007|09:00pm]

Taliban Seize Rural District in Southwest as Police Flee

Published: February 20, 2007
KABUL, Afghanistan, Feb. 19 — Taliban insurgents seized control of a district in southwestern Afghanistan on Monday as the Afghan police abandoned their post and fled, officials said.

The district is the second to fall into Taliban hands this month, and its capture underlines the precarious hold of the government and NATO troops in the remote districts of southern Afghanistan.

The midmorning attack occurred in the Baqwa district of Farah Province, where few NATO or Afghan troops are deployed. A small number of American soldiers run a reconstruction team in the provincial capital, but the districts are left to the local police, who lack staff and weapons.

The police in Baqwa town warned their provincial headquarters that the Taliban were advancing in such large numbers they could not hold the district office, according to Baryalai Khan, the secretary to the provincial police chief.

“At 11:30, we lost telephone and radio contact with our police in Baqwa district, and it seems the district is in the hands of the Taliban,” he said. “According to the people of the town, our policemen escaped in different directions, and the Taliban are in the district, although not in the center for fear of bombardment.”

“We don’t know if there are any casualties among our police,” he said. “We have no contact with them.” Four policemen were killed and three wounded by a remote-controlled mine in the same district on Sunday, he added.

Taliban forces have often overrun district offices in the past, sacking them and then usually leaving after a few hours. But this year they have seized and held entire regions.

British NATO forces and Afghan troops, however, claimed success in an attack over the weekend on a Taliban stronghold in Helmand Province, just east of Farah.

The operation unfolded south of Gamsir and concentrated on three major compounds, destroying a tunnel complex linking them.

“We were able to hit them hard in the largest deliberate operation there has been down there, and disrupt their command and control,” Lt. Col. Rory Bruce told Reuters on Monday from the British task force headquarters.

He said that a “significant number” of enemy fighters had been killed, but did not give a precise figure. There were no British casualties.

On Sunday, insurgents fired twice on a Canadian military convoy moving at night through the southern city of Kandahar, a NATO statement said. Two Afghans — a homeless man and a police officer — were killed by the Canadians in the ensuing firefight, the statement said. NATO said both shootings were under investigation.
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[20 Jan 2007|04:22pm]

That's it.

The debate is OVER.

Israel is superior.


This video even gives equal time to the Palestinian side.

More goodness:


- John

P.S. This is a joke. If you can't take a joke, please lighten up.
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[29 Dec 2006|02:04pm]

Saddam Hussein will die.

Like it's going to make a bit of difference at this point. Iraq is fucked.
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[01 Nov 2006|05:53pm]

Since I keep arguing with him, I might as well promote him too. douglain's Last Week's Apocalypse is a book that I was supposed to review a year ago. Still haven't gotten around to it. I'm also supposed to review a book for Whispers of Wickedness and haven't gotten around to that one as well. My impression thus far is that it's innovative throughout. The first story is one of those stories like "Magic for Beginners" or "Calcutta, Lord of the Nerves" that just redefines what a short story can accomplish. I'm not terribly impressed with the other ones that I've read, mostly because the narrator is obviously douglain and I can read his livejournal for his politics. But the first story is worth the purchase price.

As usual this is cross-posted on book_pimp

What I'm asking you to do:

1. Click on the above link.
2. Add Tags.
3. Once you are at that link, hit the helpful or not helpful buttons for the reviews.
4. Hit those lists and guides and click on a few of those links.
5. Write your own List and include this book. Examples.
6. If you've read the book, write a review - both on your blog or on Amazon.
7. If you're interested in buying the book, buy it.
8. Go to Amazon and independently search for the book.
9. Copy this post into your own livejournal.

As usual this is the Wednesday Book Promotion. Help out as much as you can.
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[31 Oct 2006|06:37pm]

Have I called Bill Frist a dirty traitor on this forum lately?

Old news, but this Weimar Republican is still walking around breathing free air so it's still relevant.
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"To him, the two ideas do not conflict." [26 Oct 2006|10:00am]

Has anyone else listened to the Anne Garrels piece that aired on the second hour of yesterday's All Things Considered on NPR?

She profiled a Baghdad neighborhood, Hourria (SP?), "where Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr's Mehdi Army are killing and expelling Sunnis;" the most instructive portion of her story begins at 6:21 minutes into the 7:39 running time of the archived audio:

ANNE GARRELS: "Yet even Hassan, whose family was forced to flee their home, and whose brother-in-law was killed by Sadr's militia, does not blame Sadr himself."

TRANSLATOR relaying HASSAN'S INTERVIEW: "He only fights the Americans, and we are with him on that. He has never approved the killing of Sunnis."

AG: "Despite his hatred of the American forces, and his support of attacks on them, Hassan says he wants the American troops to stay in his neighborhood to protect him. To him, the two ideas do not conflict."

TRANS. for H: "I wish that they would stay, so that no one would dare pick up arms in Hourria; because if they leave, it will be like Afghanistan, with everybody armed to the teeth."

It seems to me that Hassan sees the U.S. troops as the equivalent of a stalking horse: something to draw the fire of the Shi'ite thugs who might otherwise direct their fire at him and his family; this seems to dovetail nicely with Bush's "flypaper" theory (otherwise known as "we fight them there so we don't have to fight them at home;" never mind the distinct possibility that we'll be fighting them at home because we fought them and gave them on-the-job-training "over there"...).

Maybe this is an emotional reaction, but I don't see how using U.S. troops as stalking horses is a tenable strategy in an open-ended "war on terror;" shouldn't we be thinking seriously how to pull out of Iraq without leaving all of our materiel, particularly weapons and ammunition, behind? Any thoughts?
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Losing Afganistan [15 Oct 2006|06:19pm]

Afghanistan: Why NATO cannot win
By M K Bhadrakumar

The four-month-old Republic of Montenegro on the Adriatic Sea received its first foreign dignitary on Monday when US Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld arrived at its capital, Podgorica. Unknowingly, the tiny country of rugged mountains and great beauty in the Balkans with a population of 630,000 was being catapulted into the cockpit of 21st-century geopolitics.

Rumsfeld's mission was to request the inexperienced leadership in Podgorica to dispatch a military contingent to form part of the coalition of the willing in the "war on terror". Rumsfeld promised that in return, the US would help train Montenegro's fledgling army to standards of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO).

However, Prime Minister Milo Djukanovic could not make any commitments. Rumsfeld's proposal came at an awkward moment for the leadership in Podgorica, which had just scrapped the draft and was scaling down its 4,000-strong army to about 2,500.

This bizarre diplomatic exchange between the most awesome military power on Earth and the newest member of the "international community" brings home the paradoxes of the "war on terror" on the eve of its fifth anniversary. Three ministerial-level meetings of NATO have taken place within the space of the past month alone, specifically with the intent of ascertaining how troop strength in Afghanistan can be augmented.
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Oh shit [03 Oct 2006|12:04pm]

QALAT, Afghanistan -- U.S. Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist said Monday that the Afghan war against Taliban guerrillas can never be won militarily and called for efforts to bring the Islamic militia and its supporters into the Afghan government.

Yes, that's right, the Republican LEADER OF THE SENATE is selling out Afghanistan to the Taliban - the bastards that started this mess in the first place by cozying up to Bin Laden.
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[03 Oct 2006|11:41am]

Robert Anton Wilson needs our help
I'm not exaggerating one bit when I say Robert Anton Wilson is one of my heroes. His writing has had a profound influence on the way I view life, more so than any other writer. If I had not read his books, there would definitely be no Boing Boing.
My friend Douglas Rushkoff feels the same way about him, and I'm reposting his blog entry because Robert Anton Wilson needs our help now.

UPDATE: Note from Robert's friend, Denis Berry: Sadly, we have to report that wizard-author-intelligence increase agent is in trouble with his life, home and his finances. Robert is dying at his home from post polio syndrome. He has enough money for next months rent and after that, will be unable to pay. He cannot walk, has a hard time talking and swallowing, is extremely frail and needs full time care that is being provided by several friends-fans-volunteers and family. We appeal to you to help financially for the next few months to let him die at his home in peace.

Douglas Rushkoff: I hope people I've inspired with my work would band together to help me out in my later years if I needed it. Which is at least part of the reason why I'm sending what I can to support cosmic thinking patriarch Robert Anton Wilson, whose infirmity and depleted finances have put him in the precarious position of not being able to meet next month's rent.
In case the name doesn't immediately ring a bell, Bob is the guy who wrote Cosmic Trigger -- still the best narrative on how to enter and navigate the psycho-spiritual realm, and co-wrote the Illuminatus Trilogy, an epic work that pushes beyond conspiracy theory into conspiracy practice. Robert Anton Wilson will one day be remembered alongside such literary philosophers as Aldous Huxley and James Joyce.

But right now, Bob is a human being in a rather painful fleshsuit, who needs our help. I refuse for the history books to say he died alone and destitute, for I want future generations to know we appreciated Robert Anton Wilson while he was alive.

Let me add, on a personal note, that Bob is the only one of my heroes who I was not disappointed to actually meet in person. He was of tremendous support to me along my road, and I'm honored to have the opportunity to be of some support on his.
Note from Robert's friend, Denis Berry: Robert's writing has enlightened-educated many and if you can please commit to help pay a portion of his expenses until his passing which sadly won't be that long. Monthly contributions of $50.00 or more will be greatly appreciated. All monies will go directly to Robert and can be sent to his PayPal address olgaceline@gmail.com. You can also send a check to RAW c/o Futique Trust, P.O. Box 3561, Santa Cruz, Ca 95063. Link
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[29 Sep 2006|02:52pm]

If we could only blast this at the White House from giant speakers shaped like a monkey for the rest of Bush's term. We could even hang a "Mission Accomplished" banner above it.

"President Bush's election-year attacks are the product of a desperate White House with no credibility left with the American people," said Howard Dean, chairman of the Democratic National Committee.

"It was yet another example of how he is in denial over what is happening in the war on terror," said House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-California

(quotes from: http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/09/29/bush.ap/index.html )
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[29 Sep 2006|02:47pm]

Bush up to his old shit.

Ok. In practical terms what does this Torture Bill mean for us. And our enemies. And our allies. And the poor bastards that are going to get accused of terrorism.

Does this mean we don't have to outsource to Syria?
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